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Bokonon: /* An alternative */

2012-05-28T05:28:59Z

An alternative

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	You can get a pair of relays known as [http://www.~~customdynamics~~.com/~~magic_blinkers~~.htm Magic Blinkers] from Custom ~~Dynamics~~ that uses your stock front signal lights as always-on running lights, then changes one to flashing when the signal is switched on. They work fine with the [[I want to put flush-mount flashers on the front\|Asian Signal]] flush mount front signals.		You can get a pair of relays known as [http://www.customled.com/products/magic_blinker/magic_blinker.htm Magic Blinkers] from Custom LED that uses your stock front signal lights as always-on running lights, then changes one to flashing when the signal is switched on. They work fine with the [[I want to put flush-mount flashers on the front\|Asian Signal]] flush mount front signals.

	The installation does require some wiring knowledge. Wiring instructions are online, and a wiring diagram is included in the package.		The installation does require some wiring knowledge. Wiring instructions are online, and a wiring diagram is included in the package.

Bokonon: /* Another alternative */

2010-05-23T12:49:54Z

Another alternative

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	If you find some flushmount signals that have 3-wire sockets already included, then hooking them up is just a matter of following the wiring instructions here. ~~Note that it~~ does change the visibility of your bike in the front.		If you find some flushmount signals that have 3-wire sockets already included, then hooking them up is just a matter of following the wiring instructions here. It does positively change the visibility of your bike in the front.

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Bokonon at 12:47, 23 May 2010

2010-05-23T12:47:55Z

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	The installation does require some wiring knowledge. Wiring instructions are online, and a wiring diagram is included in the package.		The installation does require some wiring knowledge. Wiring instructions are online, and a wiring diagram is included in the package.

			====Another alternative====

			If you find some flushmount signals that have 3-wire sockets already included, then hooking them up is just a matter of following the wiring instructions here. Note that it does change the visibility of your bike in the front.

			[[image:photo3.jpg\|150px]]

Bokonon at 06:35, 20 December 2008

2008-12-20T06:35:21Z

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	The 2005 and older 250s came with two-piece signals, which had a base and then the lamp part as separate units. The 2006-07s have a flexible signal base and lamp which are all one piece. The bulbs and sockets are also completely different. If you have an 06-07 bike, this article will not work for you without some tinkering, and you should use the other [[I want to make the stock front flasher pods into DRLs\|DRL conversion]] article.		The 2005 and older 250s came with two-piece signals, which had a base and then the lamp part as separate units. The 2006-07s have a flexible signal base and lamp which are all one piece. The bulbs and sockets are also completely different. If you have an 06-07 bike, this article will not work for you without some tinkering, and you should use the other [[I want to make the stock front flasher pods into DRLs\|DRL conversion]] article.

	This is what you see when you look inside the housing on a 2007 front signal		This is what you see when you look inside the housing on a 2007 front signal (left) as opposed to the older-style reflector (right).

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	====Where to start====		====Where to start====

Bokonon at 06:31, 20 December 2008

2008-12-20T06:31:59Z

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	The 2005 and older 250s came with two-piece signals, which had a base and then the lamp part as separate units. The 2006-07s have a flexible signal base and lamp which are all one piece. The bulbs and sockets are also completely different. If you have an 06-07 bike, this article will not work for you without some tinkering, and you should use the other [[I want to make the stock front flasher pods into DRLs\|DRL conversion]] article.		The 2005 and older 250s came with two-piece signals, which had a base and then the lamp part as separate units. The 2006-07s have a flexible signal base and lamp which are all one piece. The bulbs and sockets are also completely different. If you have an 06-07 bike, this article will not work for you without some tinkering, and you should use the other [[I want to make the stock front flasher pods into DRLs\|DRL conversion]] article.

			This is what you see when you look inside the housing on a 2007 front signal

			[[image:07 signal.jpg\|150px]]

	====Where to start====		====Where to start====

Bokonon at 06:20, 20 December 2008

2008-12-20T06:20:12Z

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	This is a way to add running lights to your bike without having to use [[I want to make the stock front flasher pods into DRLs\|any relays]]. This project uses stock turn signals. You could do the same thing with flushmounts, although finding the right sockets may be difficult. See the bottom of the page for another idea.		====What's this for?====

			This is a way to add running lights to your bike without having to use [[I want to make the stock front flasher pods into DRLs\|any relays]]. This project uses stock turn signals (2005 & older only). You could do the same thing with flushmounts, although finding the right sockets may be difficult. See the bottom of the page for another idea.

			====Have an '06-'07 bike?====

			The 2005 and older 250s came with two-piece signals, which had a base and then the lamp part as separate units. The 2006-07s have a flexible signal base and lamp which are all one piece. The bulbs and sockets are also completely different. If you have an 06-07 bike, this article will not work for you without some tinkering, and you should use the other [[I want to make the stock front flasher pods into DRLs\|DRL conversion]] article.

			====Where to start====

	Our owner had a Yamaha with DRL's from the factory and wanted to set up the same thing on his Ninja. They work by using a dual filament bulb in the front signals. One filament is for the running lights and the other is for the turn signals. All you need to do is change the front lights to accept a dual filament bulb and run a wire to the signal lights for the running lights. At first, he was just going to change the light socket pigtail from a single contact to a double contact.		Our owner had a Yamaha with DRL's from the factory and wanted to set up the same thing on his Ninja. They work by using a dual filament bulb in the front signals. One filament is for the running lights and the other is for the turn signals. All you need to do is change the front lights to accept a dual filament bulb and run a wire to the signal lights for the running lights. At first, he was just going to change the light socket pigtail from a single contact to a double contact.

Bokonon at 03:07, 6 September 2008

2008-09-06T03:07:31Z

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	Tap into the wire and add a second splice to run a wire to each front signal light~~. Use [http://www.wiringproducts.com/index1.html bullet connectors], so you can remove the fairing easily~~.		Tap into the wire and add a second splice to run a wire to each front signal light.

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Bokonon at 03:05, 6 September 2008

2008-09-06T03:05:08Z

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	Tap into the wire and add a second splice to run a wire to each front signal light. [~~[Soldering 101\|Solder them]~~].		Tap into the wire and add a second splice to run a wire to each front signal light. Use [http://www.wiringproducts.com/index1.html bullet connectors], so you can remove the fairing easily.

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Bokonon at 13:41, 5 September 2008

2008-09-05T13:41:59Z

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	Our owner had a Yamaha with DRL's from the factory and wanted to set up the same thing on his Ninja. They work by using a dual filament bulb in the front signals. One filament is for the running lights and the other is for the turn signals. All you need to do is change the front lights to accept a dual filament bulb and run a wire to the signal lights for the running lights. At first, he was just going to change the light socket pigtail from a single contact to a double contact.		Our owner had a Yamaha with DRL's from the factory and wanted to set up the same thing on his Ninja. They work by using a dual filament bulb in the front signals. One filament is for the running lights and the other is for the turn signals. All you need to do is change the front lights to accept a dual filament bulb and run a wire to the signal lights for the running lights. At first, he was just going to change the light socket pigtail from a single contact to a double contact.

	[[image:drl-01.jpg\|~~150px~~]]		[[image:drl-01.jpg\|100px]]

	Light socket pigtails are available separately, but the problem is with the light socket itself. The two following pictures show that the single contact bulb alignment pins are at the same depth, while the dual filament bulbs are at two different depths. Single contact bulb.		Light socket pigtails are available separately, but the problem is with the light socket itself. The two following pictures show that the single contact bulb alignment pins are at the same depth, while the dual filament bulbs are at two different depths. Single contact bulb.

	[[image:drl-02.jpg\|~~150px~~]]		[[image:drl-02.jpg\|100px]]

	Dual contact bulb.		Dual contact bulb.

	[[image:drl-03.jpg\|~~150px~~]]		[[image:drl-03.jpg\|100px]]

	Because of this, you have to change the socket to accept the dual filament bulb. When you take the turn signals apart you'll discover that the original sockets are crimped into place. In order to change the sockets, you have to cut the old ones out. If you don't want to hack up your socket bases (in case the mod doesn't work) buy two socket bases to use as "guinea pigs". Used signal assemblies are pretty easy to come by.		Because of this, you have to change the socket to accept the dual filament bulb. When you take the turn signals apart you'll discover that the original sockets are crimped into place. In order to change the sockets, you have to cut the old ones out. If you don't want to hack up your socket bases (in case the mod doesn't work) buy two socket bases to use as "guinea pigs". Used signal assemblies are pretty easy to come by.

	~~[[image:drl-04.jpg\|150px]]~~

	In order to remove the old sockets, you have to cut notches in the lip of the socket inside the base, then carefully pry the socket loose from the base.		In order to remove the old sockets, you have to cut notches in the lip of the socket inside the base, then carefully pry the socket loose from the base.

	[[image:drl-05.jpg\|~~150px~~]]		[[image:drl-05.jpg\|100px]]

	With the old socket removed, you can see how they are crimped into the base.		With the old socket removed, you can see how they are crimped into the base.
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	The base, ready for the new socket.		The base, ready for the new socket.

	[[image:drl-07.jpg\|~~150px~~]]		[[image:drl-07.jpg\|100px]]

	Source some sockets from your local auto parts store. The brand here is unknown; they were just laying around for a while and finally got used.		Source some sockets from your local auto parts store. The brand here is unknown; they were just laying around for a while and finally got used. You'll probably end up with some similar to those used in the [[I want to wire extra brake lights into those empty rear sockets\|taillight pods mod]].

	[[image:drl-08.jpg\|~~150px~~]]		[[image:drl-08.jpg\|100px]]

	Since the sockets won't be a perfect size match, mount the new sockets with epoxy into the bases. With the new sockets in place, you need to tap into the running light circuit. If you look at the [[Wiring schematics & diagrams\|wiring schematic]], you'll find that a good place is into the wire feeding the meter lights. The wire is red with a blue stripe and can be found in a six-pin connector under the right side of the instrument panel. You will need to remove the fairing to access this connector.		Since the sockets won't be a perfect size match, mount the new sockets with epoxy into the bases. With the new sockets in place, you need to tap into the running light circuit. If you look at the [[Wiring schematics & diagrams\|wiring schematic]], you'll find that a good place is into the wire feeding the meter lights. The wire is red with a blue stripe and can be found in a six-pin connector under the right side of the instrument panel. You will need to remove the fairing to access this connector.
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	Tap into the wire, and add a second splice to run a wire to each front signal light.		Tap into the wire and add a second splice to run a wire to each front signal light. [[Soldering 101\|Solder them]].

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	Run the new running light wires along the stock turn signal harnesses to keep things neat. You can see the new running light wire and connector secured with the stock signal wires on the right side.		Run the new running light wires along the stock turn signal harnesses to keep things neat. You can see the new running light wire and connector secured with the stock signal wires on the right side.

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	Install the turn signals into the fairing. You can see the extra blue running light wire with the stock signal wires.		Install the turn signals into the fairing. You can see the extra blue running light wire with the stock signal wires.

Bokonon: /* An alternative */

2008-09-05T13:24:04Z

An alternative

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	====An alternative====		====An alternative====

	You can get a pair of relays known as [http://www.customdynamics.com/magic_blinkers.htm Magic Blinkers] from Custom Dynamics that uses your stock front signal lights as always-on running lights ~~and blinks~~ one when the signal is switched on. They work fine with the [[I want to put flush-mount flashers on the front\|Asian Signal]] flush mount front signals.		You can get a pair of relays known as [http://www.customdynamics.com/magic_blinkers.htm Magic Blinkers] from Custom Dynamics that uses your stock front signal lights as always-on running lights, then changes one to flashing when the signal is switched on. They work fine with the [[I want to put flush-mount flashers on the front\|Asian Signal]] flush mount front signals.

	The installation does require some wiring knowledge. Wiring instructions are online, and a wiring diagram is included in the package.		The installation does require some wiring knowledge. Wiring instructions are online, and a wiring diagram is included in the package.