I want to install frame sliders: Difference between revisions

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====I absolutely hate frame sliders====

~~One of our regulars~~, who is a long-term racer and track day teacher, has a few opinions on the subject:

Forum regular [http://www.ninja250.org/Craig Craig], who is a long-term racer and track day teacher, has a few opinions on the subject:

There are times when sliders do help. In driveway tip-overs and low speed crashes, frame sliders can reduce the amount of damage. But even with sliders in place, bars still get bent/broken and bodywork still gets scratched. To me less scratched-up bodywork is not a big bonus.

There are times when sliders do help. In driveway tip-overs and low speed crashes, frame sliders can reduce the amount of damage. But even with sliders in place, bars still get bent/broken and bodywork still gets scratched. To me, less-scratched-up bodywork is not a big bonus.

The downside is if the bike has any momentum and that slider catches on a curb, pothole, dirt, etc... then it can start flipping, doing major damage.

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Everything was fine until the frame slider dug into the dirt and started the bike flipping. The frame slider broke the case as it tore off. Also notice the bent forks and shattered rear wheel. Another bike crashed in the same turn and only needed a new rearset and clutch lever to be back out later in the day.

The rider was actually in good spirits after the crash. It was an easy ~~low side~~, and he didn't even get a bruise. He seemed to enjoy all the attention his bike was getting, but that might not be the kind of attention you'd like.

The rider was actually in good spirits after the crash. It was an easy lowside, and he didn't even get a bruise. He seemed to enjoy all the attention his bike was getting, but that might not be the kind of attention you'd like.

We have been keeping statistics on bike crashes at the track for the last few years, and bikes with frame sliders are more than 3 times as likely to suffer major damage than bikes without.

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 ====I absolutely hate frame sliders====
-One of our regulars, who is a long-term racer and track day teacher, has a few opinions on the subject:
+Forum regular [http://www.ninja250.org/Craig Craig], who is a long-term racer and track day teacher, has a few opinions on the subject:
-There are times when sliders do help. In driveway tip-overs and low speed crashes, frame sliders can reduce the amount of damage. But even with sliders in place, bars still get bent/broken and bodywork still gets scratched. To me less scratched-up bodywork is not a big bonus.
+There are times when sliders do help. In driveway tip-overs and low speed crashes, frame sliders can reduce the amount of damage. But even with sliders in place, bars still get bent/broken and bodywork still gets scratched. To me, less-scratched-up bodywork is not a big bonus.
 The downside is if the bike has any momentum and that slider catches on a curb, pothole, dirt, etc... then it can start flipping, doing major damage.
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 Everything was fine until the frame slider dug into the dirt and started the bike flipping. The frame slider broke the case as it tore off. Also notice the bent forks and shattered rear wheel. Another bike crashed in the same turn and only needed a new rearset and clutch lever to be back out later in the day.
-The rider was actually in good spirits after the crash. It was an easy low side, and he didn't even get a bruise. He seemed to enjoy all the attention his bike was getting, but that might not be the kind of attention you'd like.
+The rider was actually in good spirits after the crash. It was an easy lowside, and he didn't even get a bruise. He seemed to enjoy all the attention his bike was getting, but that might not be the kind of attention you'd like.
 We have been keeping statistics on bike crashes at the track for the last few years, and bikes with frame sliders are more than 3 times as likely to suffer major damage than bikes without.